In My Opinion: HRC/Logo Forum on LGBT Equality Summary
The Forum last night wasn’t exactly a huge success. While it was the first of its kind addressing solely the issues that affect the LGBT community the candidates were mostly able to wriggle out of answering a lot of questions that pertained to our equality.
The candidates went in the order that they responded to the invite which shows Hillary responded last while Obama responded first. it looked a lot like the set of Oprah the way seats were laid out and the audience, clearly hand-picked for their notability/recognizability in the queer community looked decidedly uncomfortable.
The order in which I write about the candidates is basically the order at whcih I pull them out of memory.
Edwards did not move positions. Once he realized that it sounded like his position had changed he backtracked immediately with the comment “My positions haven’t changed.” Edwards seems to be as he stated “evolving” but purposely saying, “Oh yeah, I wanna support you, but can’t ‘cuz I won’t get the votes. But my wife supports you, can’t you just take that?”
Kucinich and Gravel, we knew would be in our court. Gravel sounded less crazy than Kucinich, and at the same time actually discussed a lot more than the front runners.
Hillary, even when pressed by the question of “state’s rights” (my submitted question I might add) couldn’t bring herself to answer the question directly. Of the candidates so far I’m still for Kucinich and Gravel for their unaplogetic stances on anything, but that’s a different story. She even at one point said and I’m paraphrasing ‘Even if I went through the things that you all went through for the last 15 years my positions would not be any different.’ If that’s not a kick in the teeth I don’t know what is. When pressed about why she hasn’t introduced legislation in the Senate as a companion bill to the House’s Military Readiness Enchancement Act (MREA), she merely went on about
Bill Richardson lost A LOT of points when he melted down on Melissa’s and Joe’s questions. When asked whether or not he thought homosexuality was a choice his first response was “Yes, it’s a choice.” After three attempts at giving him the chance to answer the question in a different manner he maintained. He only changed his response to that after the forum when pressed about it by blogger Pam Spaulding. The question he was posed by Joe Solmonese which remains unanswered was “If presented with a bill for equal marriage, would you sign it?” His response: “I’ve done everything I can to push for ‘Domestic Partnerships.’” Three times he was asked this as well, twice in the forum and again, by Pam. Simply, he wants us to go on his record. My response to that is that while one’s record is clearly important what you say and what you do know is very important to the survival of your comapaign.
Obama did fairly well however still when pressed about the hard issues couldn’t break from his personal stance. At one point he even, and unfortunatley not many caught it, prioritized us and homophobia as last among all other things that need to be addressed in the black community.
None (other than Edwards briefly) actually seemed to be able to identify with our community and our struggles. Most candidates touched on AIDS and Healthcare and what they’ve done. But clear to me was the bottom line, we’re just not important enough for any of the top tier candidates.
We have a right and a responsibility to demand what’s right form our candidates. We still have a long road ahead of us to get to the 2008 elections and we need to keep pressing these issues to get the answers that we deserve. Human equality is not something that should be “left to the states.” Human dignity is not a votable issue. No more 85% citizenship simply because of who we love or who we’re attracted to. No more getting fired from jobs because our boss just happens to be bigoted against gay people. Whether or not your Creator is God, Jehova, Allah, Zeus, the Flying Spaghetti Monster, or none of the above, we all are guaranteed equal legal status by our constitution and our government and it’s time that we stand up and unite to demand it.
RSS 10. August 2007 (05:43)Filed under: 2008 Elections, Barack Obama, DADT, Debate, Don't Ask, Don't Ask Don't Tell, Don't Tell, ENDA, HRC, Hate Crime Laws, Hillary Clinton, John Edwards, Pam's House Blend
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Nelson G.
10. August 2007 | 08:57 hSad when the candidates unlikely to become President fare better than the candidates who are likely to become President.
Joseph Biden and Christoper Dodd get ZERO’s for no showing.
Richardson was a terrible disappointment.
At first it didn’t make any sense to have Pam fly across the country to watch the forum on a large screen monitor but now I’m glad she was there, if only to have witnessed what took place when Richardson shot himself in the foot.
Timothy
10. August 2007 | 16:15 hGood synopsis. Pam was annoyed by Melissa’s bark beetle question, but I got a good laugh out of it; I think it was her way of saying “well, other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?” After such a painful, idiotic performance, what was she supposed to do, say “well, clearly you’re an idiot.”?
I like that Obama said marriage should be left to the churches [not a position I support per se], and that his church supports it. While I wish he could/would just come out in support, I think it was a nice ‘hat tip.’ He knows he’s playing a game, and he is rightly showing his game face, not his cards (unlike what he did with the ‘talk to Iran’ political fumble). Like it or not, the election is a political battle, not a system where the good guy finishes first. Otherwise we’d all vote for love-love Kucinich, right? He was the only one to convincing point out that he has been a long-time supporter of the community, even when inconvenient. Gov. Richardson take note: Americans aren’t going going to research your history no matter how many times you say “look at my record.” Ya gotta sell it by showing it!
Was Gravel high? Can I have some?
Hillary, as always, impressed with her composure–and god knows we need some of that after King George The Befuddled (KGTB), but was also condescending.
I actually really liked the format. It was a welcome reprieve from stump speeches and meaningless 30-second soundbite debate responses (love ya Keith O, but any sensible position on topics like withdrawal from Iraq or solving the fear-driven social divisions created by KGTB cannot be accurately described in 90 seconds, applause or no).
Timothy
10. August 2007 | 16:17 hAck - I mean OBAMA showed his long-standing support, not Kucinich, who while good, is irrelevant other than doing what Gravel accurately dubbed ‘kicking the ball down the field.’
Michael T.
21. August 2007 | 12:29 hI like your take on the forum, but I disagree that Edwards actually “identified” with our community in any authentic sense – he seemed very practiced and very polished, especially when he brought up LGBT youth being kicked out of their homes – mortifyingly earnest.